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Waterford During the Civil War, 1641-53

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Waterford during the Civil War(1641 -1653).

Traits and Stories from the T.C.D. Depositions (Continued)
Edited by THOMAS FITZPATRICK, LL.D.

LI
John Crockford, of Killgraney, in the County of Waterford (f. 125)
(Losses, 521(li) 13 shillings 9d (pence)

….. And further he sayth, yt there was murthered, of and in the parish of Whitedchurch, Ralph Bennetl jun., Wm Shoah, Robert Drew, James brother-in-law to Robert Wallis, Robert Damorell, and four others whose names he knoweth not.
And further the depont sayth, that he was robbed of his goods & chattells by the hands & means of Sr Nicholas Walsh of Ballykeroge, Knt, John Hore of Dungarvan, gent, Capt Edmond ffennell, now of Dungarvan, Richard Butler of Kilcash, a reputed Generall of the forces of Waterford and Tipperary, Edmund mc James, & Robcrt Stephens, parish of Whitechurch, John fitz gerald of Balliellane
JOHN CROCKFORD.
Jur &c 18 June 1642
(Bisse, Badinedge, Rugge)

LII
John Lambert of the Grange, barony of Decies (f. 126)
(Losses, 376 li)
……………. He saith that John fitz Gerrald of ffarnan, gent, James Welsh, Son to Sr Nicholas Welsh, Knt, and John Butler of Ringova (Ringagoona), gent (a reputed Captaine of the rebells), were the parties that robbed this depont, as he is [credibly] informed.
And further he deposeth that John Stutely (see also Nos. c, cxiv) of Ardmore (sic), in ye sd county, cleark, formerly curat of Armore, since this rebellion turned papist, together with his wife & family, John Adams his wife and family, likewise turned papists.
Jurat &c 23 Junii 1642
Tho: Badinedge,
Hen. Rugge)

LIII
Barnard Pabe of Ballingambon, parish of Whitechurch, yeoman
(Losses, 264 1i l1 shillings 4d (pence))
He was robbed by the hands & means of Robert Stephens & his followers, as, Wm Veale of Ballingambon, & John Veale brother to the sd Wm., husbandmen, & divers others
He further sayth that Phillipp Veale of ye parish of Whitechurch, taylor, John o Lyne of the same, husb., Daniell . . ” husb, who also tould his wife, a protestant, that she must shift for herself, for if it were knowne that he was in her company he should be cut to picces (how can the deponent swear to this?): All these were heretofore reputed protestants, and now, sithence this rebellion, tumed papists.
(Mark)
Jurat &c 18 June 1642
(Bisse, Badinedge, Rugge)

LIV
Hercules Beere of Gleinmore, parish of Lismore, carpenter (f. 129)
(Losses, 439 li sterl.)
The deponent saith that Morris o Downey of Glanmore, husbandman, James fitz Gerat of Coole-Ishell, gentleman, and others whose names he knoweth not, were the parties that then and there so robbed him.
Jur, &c 17 June 1642
(Bisse, Ellwell)

LV
Charles Hart, parish of Kilgobint, barony of Decies, husbandman (f. 131)
(Losses, on New years day night, 9 li 5 shillings)
………….by Turlough o Brien his tenants. He saith that he himself his wife and children, were then and there stript by the tenants of Turlough o Brien aforesd and John Hore fitz Mathew of Shandon, barony of Decies, Esqrs.
Jurat &c 15 Aug. 1642
Phil Bisse
Jam Wallis

LVI
Robert Clay of Coscam, parish of Dungarvan,: clothier, (f. 132)
(Losses, value 35 li 7 shillings)
He further sayth, he was robbed by Garrett Newgent, of Coscam, gent, & his followers…………….And further sayth that Sr Nicho. Welsh of Ballyearoge & his followers stole & carryed away certaine Englishmen’s cattle, & as they were driving them by an house nere wherein the deponant was ffaine to hyde himselfe for shelter, his wife and one child, being one James Mac Thomas his house, of Coscam…………….. hearing ye drove of cattle going by ye aforesd James Mac Thomas, now in actuall rebellion & his company, ran out and took of the prey an English heiffer & presently killed it. He further sayth that one . . . Boston, with his wife & three children were stripped by ye rebells; but knoweth not who they were yt stripped them.
And lastly this deponent sayth, that Peter Anthony of Comro (Comeragh) his wife, & children formerly a professed protestant, but since this rebellion turned papists.
ROBERT CLAY
Jurat &:c 22 June, 1642
(Badnedge, Bisse, Rugge, Ellwell)

LVII
Phillipp Chapple, of the town and parish of Whitechurch, clarke (f.133(
(Losses 39 li 3 shillings”)
(‘……… besides the loss of his curattship of Whit Church
under the Bishop’s seale, worth to this depont coibus annis twelve pounds per annum – further sayth he was robbed of his goods, as he is credibly informed,’ struck out) by Margrett Tobin of the same parish, with her son Edmond and daughter More, and David Morrish his brother-in-law – his name the deponent knoweth not, and Wm Brenagh of the said parish his brother & Margarett Garracoin, only so called in the sd parish, widow, with divers of the forces of Waterford and Tipperary he also sayth that he was stripped stark naked by the said rebells.
PHILLIPP CHAPPELL
Jur 24 June 1642
Percye Smyth
Phi1 Bisse

to be continued

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Meagher of the Sword, Exiles Honour the Great Irish-American in Montana

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The following is the full text of the splendid address on General Thomas Francis Meagher delivered at an Irish gathering in Butte, Montana, by a gifted Clonmel man, Mr. Richard P. O’Brien. We are sure it will be read with deep interest by his many friends in this county:-

“Mr. Chairman, Ladies, and Gentlemen,- Everybody in this audience is aware that a monument is to be erected this summer to the memory of General Thomas Francis Meagher. In view of the near completion of the monument, it may not be inappropriate to address a few words to you concerning the career and character of the man whose memory is about to be honoured in this signal manner, by the citizens of Montana.

“Thomas Francis Meagher was born in the city of Waterford, Ireland, in the year 1823. His father was a wealthy merchant of that ancient city, and his standing with his fellow-citizens may be gauged by the fact that he was elected mayor, being the first Catholic for over two hundred years to occupy that honourable position. This event was subsequently mentioned with pardonnable pride by his illustrious son.

” Thomas Francis was educated by the Jesuit Fathers at Clongowes Wood, Ireland, and at Stoneyhurst, England. At these two famous institutions were laid broad and deep the foundations of that classical learning and exquisite taste which afterwards shone so conspicuously in all his writings and speeches. Having completed his course at Stoneyhurst with great distinction, Meagher returned to his native land to find its passionate heart throbbing responsively to two mighty influences – the subtle witchery of Davis’ lyre and the scarcely less melodious cadences of Mitchel’s trenchant and powerful prose. These were literary influences directed to the attainment of a political end. In accurate nomenclature they would be termed politico-literary influences.

“To these the young student was destined in a short time to add a third, and not less glorious influence- a gorgeous and enchanting eloquence unsurpassed even in that land which has produced more orators of the first rank than Greece itself – an eloquence that, with intensest heat, fused the ore of his extensive reading, and produced the most finished blade of perfect speech that has been wielded in the assertion of a nation’s liberty since the days when Demosthenes attempted to revivify decadent Hellas by the thunder tones of his, immortal Philippics. The political situation in Ireland at that time was still dominated by the Titanic figure of O’Connell. That truly great man had, about fifteen years before, won Catholic Emancipation by means of constitutional agitation, and he believed he could win ‘Repeal’ by the same methods. But the prestige of the great ‘tribune’ had received a staggering blow. His ‘monster meetings’ had been suppressed. He had been cast into prison, from which he had emerged less sanguine, but still obstinately attached to his favourite policy The youthful section of O’Connell’s, followers never endorsed this policy. They argued that England would never repeal the Union (so disastrous to Ireland and advantageous to herself) which she had attained by means of the most nefarious corruption, and that revolution was the only course open to the people.

“O’Connell’s followers, in their zeal to tie down the younger and more ardent section, introduced for adoption a series of resolutions known as the ‘Peace Resolutions,’ which declared that ‘liberty was not worth purchasing at the price of one drop of blood.’ These resolutions, as might be expected, precipitated the issue. Meagher sprang to his feet, and delivered a speech against the adoption of the resolutions – a speech which for loftiness of thought, splendour of illustration, and sustained brilliancy of poetic diction has rarely, if ever, been equalled in the whole range of ancient or modern oratory.

“This was at the beginning of his career as an orator – a career, the meteoric splendour of which, from the delivery of the ‘Sword Speech’ in Conciliation Hall in Dublin, down to the noble and scholarly utterance in the dock at Clonmel, when he was about to be sentenced to death for high treason, Irish history proudly attests. This barbarous sentence, as you all know, was never carried out, having been commuted to penal servitude for life to Van Diemen’s Land. Of Meagher’s life at the Antipodes it is not my purpose to speak now. It was not entirely devoid of passing gleams of brightness, and of such happiness as, even in exile, falls to the lot of men who, like Meagher, have been endowed by Nature with an ardent and poetic imagination. The gloom of his exile was rendered less oppressive by the love of a beautiful young lady who became his wife, and who afterwards died in Ireland while her heroic husband, was in the United States, bending all
His energies to making a home for her in the country of his adoption.

“Meagher escaped from Van Diemen’s Land and arrived in New York in 1852. After lecturing with great success for some time, he studied law, entered into its practice, and in 1856 edited the Irish News. When the Civil War broke out he raised a company for the Sixty-ninth New York Volunteers, and fought bravely at Bull Run. This company was subsequently made the nucleus of that famous Irish Brigade in the Army of the Potomac which Meagher raised, and commanded in all the battles of that army from Fair Oaks to Chancellorsville. The fame of Meagher’s Irish Brigade fairly rivals that of the old Irish Brigade, which, in the service of France, won immortal renown on every battlefield of Europe from ‘Dunkirk to Bellgrade’; and the glory of Fredericksburg, Antietam, and Chancellorsville ranks with that of Cremona, Ramillies, and far-famed Fontenoy itself, where the fiery valour of the exiled children of the Gael turned the tide of battle against Cumberland’s well-nigh victorious legions, and won a decisive victory for the arms of France. But it is with Fredericksburg that Meagher’s name and fame are inseparably associated. To the student of history the mention of either name conjures up a mental picture of that magnificent charge up the grape-swept slopes of Mary’s Heights, where the flower of Ireland’s chivalry fell in their desperate attempt to storm the impregnable position of their gallant Southern foes.

“Incredible as it seems, some people have endeavoured to condemn Meagher for rashness or something worse on that memorable occasion, and have actually striven to make it appear that the ultimate responsibility for the sacrifice of his command rested on his shoulders. Imagine anyone condemning Lord Cardigan for sacrificing the Light Brigade at Balaclava! yet both cases were exactly similar, as were also the results. In both battles the brigadier had no option but to obey the orders of his commander-in-chief, and Meagher at Fredericksburg and Cardigan at Balaclava would have been court-martialled had the former disobeyed Burnside and the latter Lord Raglan. The immortal lines of Tennyson are equally true of both-

“Was there a man dismay’d ?
No, though the soldier knew
Some one had blunder’d.
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die.’

“The field of Fredericksburg had been chosen by Lee himself, because the position afforded the natural advantages that would enable him to neutralise the numerical superiority of the enemy. The exact range of every position either held by the Federal forces or likely to be held by them had been accurately determined by actual measurement, and the rebel batteries swept the slopes of Mary’s Heights and the plain at their base with a besom of fire. Being an Irishman myself, any description which I might give of the battle, or at least of Meagher’s part in it, would be open to the suspicion of being too partial to my countrymen. I shall content myself, therefore, with quoting the words of Mr. Russell, the special war correspondent of the London Times, as neither he nor the paper he represented can be accused of partiality to Irishmen .

These are his words: ‘Never at Fontenoy, Albuera, nor at Waterloo was more undoubted valour displayed by the sons of Erin than during these six frantic dashes which they directed against the almost impregnable position of their foe with the dauntlessness of a race which has gained fame on a thousand battle-fields, and never more richly deserved it than at the foot of Mary’s Heights.’

“This is the praise of an enemy, and it is praise indeed. Oh; my countrymen, think of the imperishable glory of that peerless charge across the plain and up those heights swept by the iron tempest from Walton’s guns. Six times up the hill, and even to the very muzzles of the death-dealing guns, charged the devoted brigade, and each time at its head-ever in front of the foremost files-rode Meagher, cheering, and animating his troops, his uniform tattered with shot, and his good sword flashing in the frosty light of that deathless December day. Aye, be always proud of the memory of that historic charge and of Meagher’s fame, for it is a heritage of glory! At Chancellorsville, after Jackkson’s flanking attack had disrupted the Union line, Meagher and his brigade succeeded in saving the Maine battery, and he was complimented on the battle-field by General Hancock, who assigned him the post of honour, by ordering him to command the rearguard in the retreat. This was the last of his battles. His brigade, decimated at Fredericksburg, had been almost annihilated at Chancellorsville, and Meagher was given the military district of Etowah, with the brevet rank of major-general.

“After the war, Meagher was sent to Montana as territorial secretary, but in consequence of the absence of Governor Clay Smith, the duties of the governor devolved upon him. The territory was then passing through that embryonic stage of turbulence and lawlesssness which always seems to precede the births of new States. He firmly established law and order in the new territory, and his wit, eloquence, courtesy, and generosity endeared him to the hardy pioneers amongst whom this last phase of his life was cast. Tales of his marvellous horsemanship were told by many a hunter’s camp-fire, coupled with anecdotes of his early adventures in his native land, and of his war record, of which the fame was known to all. At meetings and public gatherings the potent influence of his oratory was felt, and several speeches delivered by him, while in Montana, proved that his eloquence had lost nothing of that wonderful rhythmic flow which was one of its most salient characteristics. But the end of this chivalrous and gloriously gifted being was close at hand. The sands in the hour-glass of Meagher’s life were running low. His brilliant and checkered course was nearing the last milestone, and the ‘angel of the amaranthine wreath’ was approaching to press the poppies of eternal sleep upon his brow. The catastrophe was sudden and unexpected. His wife (for Meagher had married again) was about to return to shed the rosy light of her love upon his home-and what a love !- a love which has endured and remained constant to the hero’s memory during all those darkened years that have elapsed since the disastrous tidings of his death smote the widow’s ears and blighted her young heart.

“There had been trouble with the Indians, and Meagher had been busy making preparations to subdue the hostile tribes. On the evening of July 1, 1867, he, accompanied by his staff, had ridden into Fort Benton and taken passage on the steamer G. A. Thompson to go down the river to superintend the delivery of arms and ammunition to the troops which he had organised. It appears that, for some reason that will never be known, he had left his state-room and gone on deck. The railing in front of his cabin was broken. Some coils of rope were lying near the edge, and it is thought that, in the darkness, he stumbled against one of them. That he must have received some injury in falling seems certain, because he emitted a deep groan as he fell into the seething waters. An alarm was at once raised, and some of the passengers caught fitful glimpses of his form as he struggled manfully against the yellow billows that were hurrying him relentlessly to his undiscovered grave. Meagher was a powerful and accomplished swimmer, but the Missouri at this place is full of cross-eddies and whirlpools, and the resistless current, with appalling speed, swept him beyond the reach of human aid for ever. His gallant struggle for life was unavailing, and the swirling waters of the tawny river closed above his dauntless head. The last melodious period had flowed from the gifted pen. The last rhythmic speech had fallen from the lips of gold. He had ridden his last charge, and the whirling sands of the raging river engulfed the form of as true a knight as ever-

“Shot thro’ the lists at Camelot and charged
Before the eyes of ladies and of kings.’

“His fiery life was quenched that night by the Misssouri’s rushing waves, but his fame flames on-a beacon light to guide the true and brave, and in the years to come fathers will lead their sons to where his martial effigy rises in enduring bronze, that, gazing on the handsome lineaments of the soldier-orator, their young souls may be fired to the utterance of noble thoughts and the achievement of gallant deeds.”

Written by RICHARD P. O’BRIEN, B.L. published in My Clonmel Scrapbook(Second 1000) by E. Downey & Co., Waterford 1907. Book Compiled & Edited James White – No. ISBN

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Tithe Applotment Books, Tallow Parish, Co. Waterford

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This page features Tithe Applotment records for the parish of Tallow in Co. Waterford.

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Will Abstracts, Lismore and Waterford, 1724-88

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Pre 1858 abstracts can be helpful even for those whose ancestors did not make wills – here we have domestic servants mentioned, there are placenames which may or may not be phonetic variations on those we find in the 1851 Townland Directory.

19 June 1724
Everard, George
Will of George Everard of Garrondillon Co. Tippy (Tipperary)- his wife Ellen, eldest son Edmond two thirds, John second youngest son one third of the property. To Dr. James Glysane, par. Priest, a young black filly & £4.6.8. To Mr. Wm. McCarthy one of executors, a young bay meare. Mr. Hamilton Lowe ffetheard, Mr. Wm. Mcarthy Clocully & wife Ellen Everard, Executors. Present: Laur Fanning, Nich White. Bond of £200 ster: due from Mr. Redmond Everard Bart of some other person for his use.

NOTE: John Bray: Burgess of Clonmel, Conf. Kilkenny & M.P. Clonmel in St. James II parliament, lived at Garondillon in 1677: he had forfeited under Cromwell & by deed of 26 Mar 1669 was demised 478 acres in Knockballymallow/Knockballynemollogh for term of 31 years, by Thomas Juxon

26 Nov 1729
Goss, Gration:
Will of Gration Goss, Citty of Waterford – all to his wife Catherine Goss. £5 to her Grandchild Thos. Comby, declared by Gration Goss in presents of Alexr Desmaison, Pirce Butler, James Walsh – after or in my life – my ffrince book to Alexr Desmaison in ye same order as at p.: sent, with the silver clasps on ye salme along wth them.

12 Feb 1725
Clancy, Johannes:
Admon of goods of Johannes Clancy intestate of Kildarmudy firmarius, granted to Marg. Clancy his Widow by Thomas bishop of Waterford & Lismore.

16 July 1725
Quarry, Isaac:
Will of Isaac Quarry, Knockane – his farm and cattle &c to be divided between his two sons John & William – joint Executors, to old servt Mary Ryane, house garden & grassing for four collops during lease of Knockane, rent free & to her two children my daughter by her £5 each at 19 years of age. To my good friend Wm. Gombon during my lease a house rent free for life and grassing for one beast & when he dies to daughter Esther. Prest Pierce Power, Robt Quarry Will Gambon.

14 Feb 1729:
Redmunds, Timotheus
Admon of goods to Timotheus Redmunds granted to Alicia Redmunds, Clonmel, Widow

5 Aug 1725
Wells, Simon
Will of Simon Wells schoolmaster – All to his wife Sarah Wels (execux) & daurs. Amy, Elizabeth & Lydia. Prest. John Fell, Thos. Murray, John Sault

27 Jan 1726;
Ellis, John
Will of John Ellis, gent: Leaves a Moydore to each Edwd Redmonds , Benj. Robinson, Wm. Blackcoat (son of John Blackcoat), his silver watch to John Norrinton, sword to Michl. Browne & rest, bonds debts to Susanna Browne. Prest. John Smith David Walls, Willm Lonergan.

Meade, Garrett. Dungarvan, Mercht.
2nd May 1787. Probate to Frances Lonergan 23rd Aug 1787
Partnership of Lonergan & Meade.: – Accts. & Bequest of £200 on Geo. Porter – conditioning Wm. Lonergan son of Francis Lonergan to have stores & cellars & £25. £25 to Revd. John Buckley for purpose I have mentioned him & further sum of £25 for said purpose. Gold watch to Wm. Lonergan, £39 to Mr. Thos. Fade. Residue to wife mrs. Elizabeth Lonergan for sole use & c. She and Frances Lonergan sole Execrs. G. Lonergan, James Kennedy.
Codicil to last: £5 to James Williamson for mourning. 40 guineas to Barthol. Guinan, Cork. 30 gns to Michl. Anthony, Jr. Tanner. £10 to Mrs. Marg. Connery, Dungarvan. Residue only; any effects to my brother Henry Meade not yet remitted should produce amount. William Walsh, Mary Power.

Robinson, John. Waterford City. Gent.
18th Nov. 1786. Probate to Robt. Backas 23rd Aug. 1787
Rbt. Backas, son of Alderman Geo. Backas & Elenor his wife, the dwelling house and garden in rere of Peirce’s Lane orwise Kisby’s Lane, city Waterford, which Mr. Kelly now holds under me with the Turrett and garden outside (inside) same to be held & enjoyed by said Robt. Backas and heirs. I also leave him my House in Barronstrand St now in possession of Mr. David Henry,(Heneary) also houses held by lease to Mr. John Archbold, Mercht. Near the new bridge. Robt. Backas sole Exr. & Rec. Legatee. Present: R. Dillon, Sylvester Pyne, Tho. Anthony.

Baldwin, John. Gent. Cahir.
9th Feb 1786. Probate 15th Oct. 1787.
5s each to sons & Daurs. Edward, Margt.McGrath (Als. Baldwin), Allice Mahony (Als. Baldwin), Thomas, James, John, bridget, Ellen. All the rest to wife Bridget Baldwin als. O’Brien. Prest. Jeffery Keating, Pierce Everard.

Bohen, Matthew. City of Waterford, Baker.
14th May 1787. probate 25th Jan 1788
Wife Margt. & Six sons. Bakery, houses to wife & Revd. D. Thomas Hearn. Exors. Andw. Dobbyn; Thos. Hunt and Thomas Cooke.
Codicil June 1787: Bequeaths Revd. Thomas Hearn £5.

Foster, Francis. Coolroe.
29th Feb 1788. 12th Mar. 1788 Probate.
Sister Ann Rogers als. Foster £50. Cath Moore als. Foster £20, Sister Elizabeth Cottanger £10, nephew Chris. Moore my bal or best bay horse. To nephew Wm. Moore my other bay horse. To friend and bror in law Pierce Rogers my watch. Rest to two sisters Sarah Gill and An Rogers. Trustee Revd. Anth. Sterling, sole exor. Prest. Will Cheeran, Jno, Edwd. Bourne.
Probate granted to Revd. A. Sterling.

Walsh, Richard. Mariner. Waterford City.
5th Jan 1788. Probate 23rd June 1788. Probate 23rd June 1788
Appoints wife Margt. Sole heiress Execx. & Adminx. Bequeath her all real and pers. Pres. Jas. Foristall, Ellen Hynes.
Probate granted to Margt. Widow.

Whelan, John, Waterford.
21st June 1784. Probate 16th July 1788
To be buried in St. Patrick’s. To each sisters children, John martin and Richd. Tobin, to John Neale’s son, Wm. Neale, silver ink horn with a gold and silver pen.- watch to keep in memory of me. £5 to repairs of Johnstown Chapple. Exors. Wm Neal, Joan Tobin als Morrisey, and Murphy.
Codicil to last:21st June 1784:
If Wm. Neale and Joan Tobin not living at death bequeath Mr. Henry O’Neile, bror of Mrs. O’Neile, Exors. £10 for trouble.

Osborne, Sir Thomas,
Tickincor, Co. Waterford, Knt.
13 Oct 1713. Precis ½ p., 17 Sept 1717

Wife Dame Ann Osborne als. Usher. Son Nicholas. Grandson John Osborne.
Edward Hubbart, lessee of Winsland als. Farrinbullin near White Church Rock. Edmond Power, lesee of the lands in B. Glannehiry, William Rony, Widow Gough, Widow Bull, Susanna Cox, John Fling, Joseph Thomas, William Hore of Caraine. Widow Ronane, Wm. Fies, Thomas Morrisy, Morrish Houllighane and Gerald Gibon, tenants in parish of Dungarvan.
Cullenagh, Coolepeasoone (?Coolnabeasoon), Knockmeale, Barneshangannagh in B. of Glannehiry; Cooleporsilly, Parknecorry, Clyneskie, Parkeirsheal, Clynegonniny and Garrystroppie, Parish of Dungarvan, Barony of Decies; Winsland als Farrinbullin, all in Co. Waterford
Witnesses: William Browning, Affane, Co. Waterford, Esq; James Usher, Ballintaylor, Co. Waterford, Esq.,; and Robert Carew, Tickinure, Co. Waterford, gent.
Memorial Witnessed By: Peter Molloy, Dublin gent; Cha. Browne
Ann Osborne (Seal)

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Presbyterian (Seceders) Synod, 1833: Congregation Index

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Presbyterian (Seceders) Synod, 1833: Name Index

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Roman Catholic Parishes, 1836: Parish Index

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This page features a list of over 1,300 record parishes from the Roman Catholic Parishes index of 1836.

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Waterford During the Civil War: XC – XCVII

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Waterford during the Civil War (1641-1653)
Traits and Stories from the T.C.D. Depositions
Edited by Thomas Fitzpatrick, LL.D.
Published in the Journal of the Waterford Archaeological & Historical Society

Abbreviations:
f. = folio
sd = said
Placenames in brackets are those suggested by editor of article for the names as spelled in the documents
wch = which

XC
Sr Richard Osborne of Knockmonne (f.221)
(Losses, including debts, 3,38li. . Among those indebted to him – James Hore ffitzjohn of Dungarvan …… )
Lastly this depont saith, that the howse of Cappagh in the said county (wherin the Lord of Ikerrin, & the Lord of Dunboyne, with their forces, lately encampt themselves) belonging to this depont, by means of this rebellion was burned and utterly ruinated together with to his loss of five hundred pounds. he was robbed of his goods by the hands and means of Captaine ffennell of Clonmel1. He likewise saith that upon the tenth of March last, the reblls killed in the County of Waterford, upon the lands of Knockmone, the undernamed persons English and protestants, viz, Richard Holloway, yeoman, Thomas Bayley, yeoman, William Shea, Ralph Bennett, yeoman, Thomas fforane, Robt True th’ elder, Robt True th’ younger, then of the garrison soulders of Knockmone Castle in the parish of Whitechurch, County of Waterford. He sayth that they were killed by John fitz Thomas of Wood house, in the sd County, gent, (a reputed Captaine of the rebells), John fitz Tibbot of Clonea in the sd countie, gent, John fitz Gerrald of ffarna,in the said countie, gent, & divers others
Jurat &c 22 July 1642
RICH: OSBORNE
Pcrcyc Smyth
Phil Bisse

XCI
Henry Cliffe of Lisnekilie, County of Waterford, ( f. 229) gent,
(Losses, 202li)
by the means of Thomas Wadding Esqre and James Lincol1, gent, of the (torn) of Waterford in chiefe of the sd farms of Clones and Broad . ……And further saith that one Paul Cary of Waterford, vintner, spake the…. words in the presence of this deponent & Mr. Kidly of Carrick in the county of Tipperary, clarke, that “the puritant parliament of England was the cause of all these troubles”, And furthermore that they had made a match between the Lady of England, the Kinges eldest daughter, and a traytour’s son that had never a foote of land.
(Mark)
Jurat &c 18 June 1642
Tho. Badnedge
Phil Bisse
Thomas Ellwell

XCII
Roger Greene, late of Ballyhambles, husbandman deposeth and saith : , ( f. 230)
That on or about the first of October last, this deponent together with the number of eleven men and women vizt., Alexander Crase, Garret Barry, Rich. West, Wm. Watts, Wm o Hea, Ann Merryville the wife of John Merryville, Ursula Gullyferr. & others, were sent by direction from sejieant-major Apleyard, governor of the town of Youghall. over the ferry of Youghall, into the County of Waterford, “to reape & bind some of the rebells’ corrne”. But the enemy, consisting of the number of forty horse & three score foote, or thereabouts, came and assaulted this deponent & the rest, & being apprehended by them, they carryed them prisoners to Dungarvan a place of theenemys randevous, And being there comitted a long time. then & there they observed two barques come in to Dungarvan aforesd., one whereof came out of Spayne laden with armes and amunition, comanded by one Captain John Donnell a native of this kingdom, & th’ other laden with salt, powder and armes newly come out of ffrance. but what quantity of armes & other amunition they brought into the said harhour this deponent know not.
Hee likewise deposeth that they then observed one Bourke (his christian name he knoweth not) to come thither out of the County Clare, Whoe bought from the said Captain Donnell three hundred musketts, sixteen barrels of powder, and five thousd weight of match, & carried the same away, being guarded with a convoy of twelve musketteers sent with him by John Butler of Ballycloghey, in the county of Tipperary, then Captain & cheefe comander of the Castle of Dungarvan aforesd
Garrett Barry of Youghall, in the County of Cork, yeoman, this day came before us, and deposed that the premises were true in all particulars.
These deponents lastly doe severally say. That they sawe at Dungarvan, John Roch of Ballyfinsoge, in the County of Waterford, gent, bearing arms in the company of the said John Butler. And likewise they saw then & there James Butler, late of the Grange, in the sd county, gent, then in company with the rebells. And further they depose that, then & there, they heard the rebells at Dungarvan cursing the puritants, & saying they were the cause of all these mischeefs, &c
Jur. &c 12 Decembris, 1642
Phil Bisse
Thomas Ellwell

XCIII
John Andrews, late of the parish of Lismore, (f.234) gent,
(Losses. 189li)
Further saith that John Murphy of Carrick in the County of Tipperary told this deponent that he himself had killed seaven women at Cappoquine, this deponent being prisoner, and in company with all the rest.
He also saith that Edmond Unssin of the barony of Inchequin,in the County at Clare, was killed by Captaine ffennell, being accompanied with all the rest: All wch rebells told this deponent that they had the Kings broade seale of England to warrant them for what they did, And further said that all the English in Ireland were rebellious Rogues and were worthy to be hanged, And that they fought for the King, and moreover wished that, in the deponent’s room, they had had the Lord President, the Earle of Corke the Earle of Barrymore, the Lord of Dungarvan, the Lord of Kynallmeaky, the Lord of Broghill **, and Sr John Browne, whoe they said were all traytours and rebells. And that they fought for the King (sic, repeated). And further saith that if the English wholly in generrall did not leave the kingdom, they would kill them or hang them all.
He also saith that they stripped this deponent, saying, that there was never a (‘man’ cancelled) [souldierJ come over out of England but such as the Earle of Cork had raised in England upon his owne landes : but they would make him glad to carry them back againe as fast as they came over.
Jurat &c 29 die Septembrls, 1642.
JOHN ANDREWES.
Jam. Wallis
Hen. Rugge

** Lords Dungarvan, Kinalmeaky and Broghill, three of the seven sons of Richard Boyle, first Earl of Cork

XCIV
Christopher Choreton, late of Dungarvan, yeoman, deposeth & saith : ( f. 237)
That on or about Christmas last, he was robbed of his goods & chattels, to the vallue of 84li 15s…….
The deponent saith he was robbed by the means and hands of Edward Hore of Dungarvan, gent, Tibbot fitz John, nere Dungarvan, gent, & Thomas Morley of the same, merchant.
He further saith that this deponent, William ffarmer, Henry Davy, Walter Bactra, John Allen, Thomas Gadsell, their wives & children, all English protestants, were stripped about ten o’clock at night by the rebells
Jurat &c 25 June 1642
CHRITOPHER CHORETON
Phil Bisse
Thomas Ellwell

XCV
Jeremy Wyse, late of Loghdolim, gent, ( f. 239)
(Losses, 257li 16s 8d)
…… By the hands and means of one Grant living neere the Three-mile bridge, a reputed captaine of the rebells, & his forces The deponent saith that, Thomas Coote, ffrancis Powell [smith, who made halberds & pikes for the rebells], John Collins, sadler, [who makes sadles likewise for them] Lawrence Ward, inkeeper, Thomas Rogers, ffarmer, Mathew Johnson, carpenter [who makes cariadges for the ordnance of the rebells], John Hudson joiner, Richard Sherett. cooper, Ralph Mullineux, smith, Joseph the hatter. [all of Waterford, were] English protestants formerly, but since this rebellion turned papist
Jurat &c 16 July, ,1642
JEREMY WYSE
Phil Bisse
Thomas Ellwell

XCVI
Richard Shepard, late of Ballycollane, parish of Aglish . ( f. 243)
(Losses 42li 10s.)
Hee further saith, that one Henerie Lyncoll of the parish of Clash more, husbandman, together with his wife, were murthered by Owen o Comery, of the parish of Clashmore, the said Henerie o Nealle & his company. Hee also saith that he was stript, with his wyfe and ffive children by Capt”” Edmond ffennell.
Jur. &c 17 Junii 1642
(Mark.)
Tho. Badnedge,
Phil Bisse

XCVII
Roger Boyle of Kilnaparke, in the County of Waterford (f.246)
(Losses, 2701i
The parties so robbed were the following [by the deposition of Ann Boyle, wife to the said Roger] : Margrett Smith, Judith Richmond, Michaell Smith, Mr Dinn, his wife and three elder children, Joan Llewellin, John Sterne, his wife, son & servant, John Smith & his wife, Goody Smith & her children, Mrs Rookes & her two children, Ge … Morgan her daughter & her children, & divers others whose names she cannot remember, to the number of (between) 3 or 400 persons, ‘as she conceives’. She also saith that there was nine children & one old woman buried on the day which she [verily conceives] was occasioned by the vnhuman vsage of those Irish rebells there vpon them

She further (torn) that there is Thomas Atkins & his wife living on Passage Hill neere Waterford, a weaver, Ralph Mullineux & his wife, at Killure, smith, Lawrence Wade at the Kinges Head [in Waterford, inkeeperl. Thomas Rogers & his wife of Woodestowne, ffrancis Powell of the Citty of Waterford, [smith ]& his wife, Thomas Dobson & his wife [husbandman], Joseph Ellis & his wife of Waterford, hatter, old Nicholas the miller, without Sct Patrick’s gate in Waterford & his wife, Evan Welsh of Killauline, ffisherman, his wife & daughters, Mathew Johnson of Ballyhow, carpenter, Mr Williams of the Cathedrall church of Waterford organist, one other Mr Williams who professes himself to be a drainer of Bogge & engineer, All wch were known protestants, & now gone to Masse with the Iris.
Jurat &c 17 June1642
ROGER DOYLE
ANN BOYLE
Tho. Badnedge (No other signature)

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Waterford During the Civil War: LXXXI – LXXXIX

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Waterford during the Civil War (1641-1653)
Traits and Stories from the T.C.D. Depositions
Edited by Thomas Fitzpatrick, LL.D.
Published in the Journal of the Waterford Archaeological & Historical Society

Abbreviations:
f. = folio
sd = said
Placenames in brackets are those suggested by editor of article for the names as spelled in the documents
wch = which

LXXXI
Richard Reely of Cappoquin, yeoman, (f.180)
(Losses, about 1 March & after, 21li)
The deponent further saith that about the time aforesd, he was taken prisoner by [ye under named persons, vizt] Richard Butler of Kilcash County of TipperaryEsquire, Captain Edmond ffennell, Pierce Butler of Bansagh in the County of Waterford (sic), gent, Patrick Gough of Kilmanihan, gent, Clement Gough of the same, gent and divers others in company with them, to the number of a thousand armed men, or thereabouts, Whoe came to the Castle of Dromanny in ye said county, purposeing to goe over the Blackwater, & notwithstanding that the enemy stood in a full body within distance to the said Castle, yett one Miles Magrath comander of the said Castle, & Mabell fitz Gerrald, wife to Gerrald fitz Gerrald of the same, Esquire, would not permitt any of the warders of the sd Castle to make any shott at them ; besides, they suffered the sd rebel1s to make use of a boate under the comand of the sd Castle, thereby to carry their men over the sd river to robb & pilladge the kinges subjects.
Jurat &c 8 Dec 1642
RICHARD REELY**
Phil Bisse
Ric. Williamson

** Editors note: Is this the Richard Ryly (or O’Rely) who later on is said to have been hanged by Fennell on Shrove Tuesday 1641-2, that is about ten months prior to the date of this deposition? See no cxliii and other examinations relating to Mountain castle near cappoquin

LXXXII
Daniell Spicer, of Lismore, clerk, deposeth and ( f. 183)
saith:
That since the beginning & by means of the present. rebellion Ireland, he lost and was despoiled of his goods & chattels & debts, worth One-hundred fortie three powndes, Part thereof due by Richard Magner (‘clarke’ scored out) of Kilnattock, clerke …… wch Magner was. hanged by the rebells of Mountgarret’s army, & Garret Browne, & Anthony Preston & the rest, papists and rebells; Donogh oGrady of Kilbotowne, gent, and Loghlin oDwire of the same parish & county, clarke, now turned papist & rebell) Michael Blunt of Any, in the said County yeoman, Robt ffarnan, Edward Rawleigh, of the same, butcher, Philip Karney of the same yeoman, John Burgett of the same, Esquire, Andrew tragh (sic) of Stonehouse in the County of Waterford, gent, Besides the losse of the benefit of his Church-living worth one hundred pounds.
DANIEL SPICER
Jurat &c 17 August 1642
Phil Bisse,
Jam. Wallis.

LXXXIII
Hugh Cooke, lateof Kilbrice, County of (f.184)
-Waterford, gent
(Losses, 241i)
Phillip Corkran, yeoman, servant to the deponent upon oath deposth …… (and names the parties concerned in the alleged robbery) Thomas Corkran, yeoman, deposeth that one Captaine Kenedy, Captaine Edmond ffennell, & Donogh oBrien, gent, were all at Kilbrice aforesd, wasting and destroying the said Hugh Croker’s corne & household goods.
HUGH CROKER
(The Corkrans both mark)
Jur. &c 12 Augusti 1642
Phil Bisse
Jam. Wallis

LXXXIV
Donogh Newman of Cappoquin (f. 186)
(Losses. 971i 15s)
And further saith that he lately bestowed in the buyldinge of the said house Twentie pownds wch he never raised out of the same for yt the last April the same was burned by Capt John Sherlock, late of Motoe in foresaid County, and Capt. Edmond ffennell late of Clonmell, and their souldiers
(Mark)
Jurat &c 15 Aug. 1642
Phil Bisse,
Jam Wallis

LXXXV
John Smith, late of the Cittie of Waterford, hatter (f.187)

Thomas Hore, Patrick Glissin, hatmaker, John Stephens of Wexford, seaman, but in regard the said parties are partly in rebellion and partly disenabled by means of the rebellion, therefore the deponent cannot get satisfaction from them, And that about Candlemas 1641, the undernamed parties, formerly protestants, are, since this rebellion, turned papists, namely, Laurence Ward of the same, yeoman, Thomas Rodgers of Woodstown in the County of Waterford, yeoman, ffrancis Powell of Waterford, with Edward Abbott of the same, tobacco pipe-maker, John Hudson of the same joyner, Mr. Williams organist of Christchurch in the said Cittie, Robert Claffe of the same, tanner, Ralph Mollineux of the same, smith. His cause of knowledge is, that he sawe some of the said parties goe into the Masse-house, & the rest did bouldly affirm their said revoult & openly confess their going to Masse.
JOHN SMYTH
Jurat &c 1 ffebr 1642
Phil Bisse,
Thomas Ellwell

LXXXVI
John Potter, curate of Affane, County Waterford (f.204)
(Losses, 41i 10s)
(‘of one co we to the’ value of fortie shillings’ struck out). Of household stuffe & his house burnt to the ground, to the value of one pound ten shillings. Of hay to the value of one pound. Besides the losse of the benefitt of his Church liveings, the curateship of Affane, worth, coibus annis, the sum of three pounds ten shillings, which he leaves to consideration.
JOHN POTTER
Jurat &c 13 Aug. 1642
Phil Bisse
Jam. Wallis

LXXXVII
(The following curious memorandum appears on this folio:) (f.209)
By the relacon of Nicholas Roberts of Ballycarty, fflorence mcCarty exprest some favours to the English after ye Castle was yeilded upp, who, when they were threatned & in danger of their lives, came & told them that he was but one man, & that he knew not what to doe for them, & to give them a convoy he thought it to be very dangerous, Whereupon he told them that they had best, as he conceaved, to buy a peare of brogues a-peece & see how the brogues & the mountaynes would agree, meaning to escape thereby, & soe ye very next night after, being snowy winter-weather they went over ye mountane & escaped all safe to the Newmarket, being twenty miles distant.
Also by ye relacoll of Mr. Daverax Spratt, Clarke, it appeareth, yt Peirce fferitur did much favour ye English in many respects above all ye Irish gent, in Kerry, in protecting many men’s lives & goods, & releeving many poore protestants out of his owne purse, And in giving many five shill. a-piece, some half-a-crown a-piece, & some less, Who was ye man when ye Castle of Tralee was taken who propounded to ye rest of ye Captns there, that if they would give back to ye protestants one-third part wch they had in ye Castle, that he for his part wold give them all his owne share, Wch notwithstanding they denying, he gave much of ye protestants’ goods hack that fell to his share.
(Not signed; but this noting on margin, 209h: Good acts of some ill men yt are Rebles-namely, fflorence mcCarty & Peirs fferitur.)

LXXXVlll
Phillip Chappell, Whitechurch, clerk . (f.211)
deposeth & saith**
That on or about the 12th day of January last past, and sithence the begining of the present rebellion, that the church of Whitechurch [of which he was Curat, was] Robd and forcibly dispoiled of its ornaments and vtensills to the value following: Of one silver cup, a church byble of the large volume, two new Comon praier-bookes, a book of Commons, one surplus (sic), one linen tabell-cloth, one carpett, Onle pulpitt-c1oth, a peece of new cloth apoynted to make a pulpit cushing: To the value of six pounds.
Jurat &c 24 June, 1642
PHILLIP CHAPPELL
Tho Badnedge,
Phil Bisse
Thomas Ellwell

**see also No. lvii of same date

LXXXIX
Judith Phillipps, of Waterford, for and· in the (f.219)
behalf of john Williams ( now a souldier in his Matjes army, &. this deponent’s husband,’ struck out) deposeth and saith :
(Losses, about Shrovetide, 401i)
This deponent sayth that at the aforesd time ye Citizens of Waterford did appoint the Constables of every parish in ye sd citty of Waterford, to fetch ye English protestants (men, women, and children in ye sd City), & thereupon had some of them Comitted in ye Citty Hall, & ye rest in three severall other places within the sd City, & soe kept them in the nature of prisioners for foure days together & seized upon all their goodes. And afterwards they comanded yt all the women & children should be led away guarded with halberts & pikes through ye sd Citty, & to be turned out of the gates towards Passadge, Wch was accordingly done, & one Capt. Stronge (governor of ye Passadge, as they tearme him) comanded to put the women & children in some severall houses in ye sd Passadge.
The depont further sayth yt the sd Capt Stronge & his company, in a most cruell manner, kept this depont & ye rest prisoners (being stript by ye rebells) yt came out of ye county of Waterford to the number of three hundred & fifty men, women and children, English & Protestants, or threabouts, allowing them but a farthing’s worth in bread every third day, Soe that through his cruell vsadge of them, there perished & dyed (most of them being starved to death) aboute ye number of eight & forty persons, young & auld (as see verily beleeves) – their names she cannot remember except two, the widdow Joice & the widdow Juan.
And this examinat likewise sayth that the sd Captaine Stronge & his company would not suffer ye Corpses of ye parties so dead to have any christian burial, but threw their dead corpes upon the sands. She also sayeth that shee this depont, at Passadge aforesd, once persuaded to come out of ye house where she was kept prisoner to buy some bread for her poore children (almost famished to death) from Irish in Passadge aforesd, having a piece of silver in her hand to buy the said bread, One of the sd Captaine Stronge’s men, meeting with this examinat (his name she knoweth not) striving to get the said money out of her hand, with the butt end of his peece strooke this deponents child Joan Phillips of ye age of three years, then in this examinat’s arms, & strooke out her brains, & afterwards fell to beating this deponent most miserably (she being in the latter end of her time), & gave her a matter of eleven wounds with his skein ‘Whereupon she imediately miscarryed of a man child.

This examinat further sayeth, yt John Lowther of ye parish of Christchurch within the Citty of Waterford, shoemaker, formerly an English protestant but since this rebellion turned papist, himselfe and his wife; & being in a conference with this examinat aboute the time aforesaid, this depont demanded the said Lowther whether he heard any news out of England, or whether any forces were coming out of England, yea or noe, He answered & sayd (with a great oath), Doe you expect (quoth he) any ayde out of England & they being upp there one agt another, & the King having lost his Crowne, Whereupon this examinat reprehended him & had him not to say soe, He replyed & sayde, ‘He lost his Crowne by loosing Ireland,’ for, if you live, sayth he (averring the same with oathes & wounds sic) a hundred years, you shall see Ireland new-recovered agen by ye English.
And lastly she deposeth yt she was present when Lieut. Trevisor & fourteene men and nyne women English & protestant in company with, him (whose names she knoweth not) were killed & murthered by the rebells at Dungulfe nere Tinterne in ye County of Wexford : but the rebells’ names she knoweth not.
( Mark)
Jurat &c 27 Jany. 1642
Tho. Badnedge
Phil Bisse

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Waterford During the Civil War: LXXV – LXXX

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Waterford during the Civil War (1641-1653)
Traits and Stories from the T.C.D. Depositions
Edited by Thomas Fitzpatrick, LL.D.
Published in the Journal of the Waterford Archaeological & Historical Society

Abbreviations:
f. = folio
sd = said
Placenames in brackets are those suggested by editor of article for the names as spelled in the documents
wch = which

LXXV
Henry Howell, late of Dungarvan, husbandman, (f.171)
(Losses, value 93li)
by Edward Hore of Dungarvan masse-priest. Anstace White of the same widdowe. And saith he was present when the Castle of Dungarvan was surprised and taken by the rebels, vizt, John Butler, living neere the same, John Hore of Shandon in the said county, Esquire, John Clancy of the same, gent, John Hore fiitz Michaell of the same, gent, Matthew Hore of the same, gent, [Tho. Morrin of the same. merchant], and divers others whose names he knoweth not.

The said Castle was taken after this manner: John Hore of Shandon aforest, pretending (a mater of a fortnight before the castle was taken that the rooffe of his house wanted reparation and slateing. borowed a lather (sic) out of the said Castle, and the same morning it was taken the sd Hore sent word to the sd castle to fetch home the sd ladder, For, saith he, the enemy is neere at hand, and it is to (be) feared they will scale [with it] the walls, except it were brought in by times, And withall sent six men with the ladder to the Castle gate; & presently noe sooner were the gates opened to receive in sd ladder but the parties that carried same stood in the middest of the sd gate with the one half of the ladder within doores & th’ other half without, Whereby the rebells instantly rushed in a greate number and tooke the said Castle, where they stripped a matter of fortie persons young and ould, English & Protestants. **
(Mark)
Jurat &c 2 die Julii 1642
Phil Bisse
Thomas Ellwell

LXXVI
William Masters, on behalf of Henry Masters, (f.172)
Hugh Masters, & Ursula Masters, three orphants,
the children of Hugh Masters – of Currakeale, taylor, deposeth and saith :
That upon the first of January 1641, or thereabouts, the said Hugh Masters in his life time lost, was robbed, and forceably despoiled of his goods and chattles to the value of 20li…..
The deponent saith that the said Hugh Masters left his castle & household stuffe in the custody of Pierce Edward of Cloghine, whoe is now in open and actuall rebellion. And likewise the said orphants’ sheepe were taken away by James White neere Everard’s Castle, gent.
(Mark)
Jurat &c 17 Martii 1642
Phil Bisse
Ric Williamson :

** For another account of the re-capture of Dungarvan Castle by the Irish, see deposition of Walter Bartram of Dungarvan (No. cxii.)

LXXVII
Walter Power, late of Ballymalloe, parish of (f. 174)
Whitechurch, gent, (Losses, 200li)
The deponent saith, that John fitz Gerald of ffarnan, gent, Captain Edmond ffennell & Henry Dowdall of Clashmore, gentlemen, were the parlies that took away this deponents cattle & goods. And further saith, that one Richard Halloway of Knockmone with six others English and protestants, & divers women and children were murthered neere Knockmone, by the said Captaine Edmond ffenneJl and his company
(Mark)
Jurat &c 17 Aug. 1642 Phil Bisse
Jam. Wallis

LXXVIII
James Burne of Dungarvan, yeoman . .. (f.176)
(Losses, 591i 7s 10d)
The deponent saith) that he heard Walter Roch, of Wexford say, That he hoped [to see] the English goe to Masse or made to run into the sea. He further saith, that he was robbed by Captaine Edmond ffennell, Sr Nicholas Welsh his eldest son, Will Murphy of Dungarvan, husb., Captaine Welsh of Slievebrayagh, county of Kilkenny.
Jurat &c 12 Aug, 1642
JAMES BURNE
Phil. Bisse
Jam. Wallis

LXXIX
Richard Prudderagh, late of Whitechurch, Cordyner, (f.177)
(Losses117li 10s.)
The deponent saith that Teige Laghten of Ballylemon, husb.,
robbed this deponent of his garden fruits, & that David Pruderagh his father, and Mary Prudderragh his mother, were murthered at Golden bridge in the County.of Tipperary, as he is informed.
RICHARD PROUDER
Jurat &c 16 Aug. 1642
Phil. Bisse
jam. Wallis

LXXX
James Curry, late of the towne & parish of (f. 178)
Affane, husbandman (Loss,’s, 39li)
He sayth that he was stript at Affane aforsd by Tibbot Butler of Knockanamony in the County of Tipperary, & his followers, And yt Donell mc David, late of Ballyhanebegg, parish of Whitechurch,. gent, did say, in this deponent’s hearing, when he was prisoner about Candlemass last, that the protestants were trayterous English doggs, and that they knew no god yt they had.
(Mark)
Jurat &c 15 Aug. 1642
Phil Bisse
Jam Wallis

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